, but that's not stopping president obama from giving every member of congress a pay raise from as much as $6,000. joining us now is peter swietzer a research fellow at stanford university, hoover institution. good to see you, peter. >> hey, it's great to be out with me, thanks for having me. >> dave: is this a bit hypocritical talking about raising taxes for all americans if they don't get a deal done, yet, how do you go ahead and give congress a raise? >> that's a great question. you know, it beats me. there's been a pay freeze in effect since 2010 and obviously, they've done such a fantastic job between then and now that they deserve this pay increase, right? it makes no sense, it makes no sense in terms of the merits and the performance in washington has been terrible and it makes no sense in terms of the politics and the atmospherics, they're getting a pay raise before they fix the fiscal cliff? who gets a pay raise before they get the job done? it's a ridiculous notion and shows me how out of touch washington d.c. is with the rest of the country. >> dave: it's certainly not about merit.